+Thin Ice OK...
yes, you are correct. However, this event where 1/3 of the earth will
be peppered with meteors will occurs at Rev 8. At this point, the
anti-christ has already been revealed. right?
Since this is the case, the departure as described by Paul in 2nd Thes 2 HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. This departure as described by Paul is the 'gathering unti Jesus'. Here is the scripture using the World English Translation
2nd Thes 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it [The gathering until Jesus] will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,
Since this is the case, the departure as described by Paul in 2nd Thes 2 HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. This departure as described by Paul is the 'gathering unti Jesus'. Here is the scripture using the World English Translation
2nd Thes 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it [The gathering until Jesus] will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction,
Joe Momma
Jul 18, 2015
+timfoster405
first thing I do in the morning is thank my Jesus for allowing me to
wake up to another fine morning be gave me, last thing i do is thank him
for having me live thru another day. So yes, to both questions. Now
show me this" scripture" bc I've read the gospel from cover to cover
and NOWHERE is this" Catholic garbage" in my holy book
timfoster405
Jul 18, 2015
+Joe Momma ,
the reason I asked you that was that I get sucked into discussions with
non-believers who want nothing to do except beat-up on Christians and
mock them. God's word is like Pearls... and Jesus says that we are not
to caste our Pearls before swine...that is why I asked. You are a child
of God, like I am and look for Jesus for our redemption and cleansing.
We will both stand before God and be blameless due to the spilled blood
of Jesus.
The rapture event is the 'catching away' of the Body of Christ, known as the Church (The Called-Out Ones). It is a real event that Paul describes in 1st Thes 4:16-17 (not found in the 4 Gospels, but in Paul's writings)
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16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God’s trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first, 17 then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever.
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The English word "caught up" is translated from the Greek word "Harpazo", which was translated in the latin vulgate as "rapiemur", which was before the English translations were completed. This is where the english word rapture comes from... the original Latin translation.
The rapture event is the 'catching away' of the Body of Christ, known as the Church (The Called-Out Ones). It is a real event that Paul describes in 1st Thes 4:16-17 (not found in the 4 Gospels, but in Paul's writings)
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16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with God’s trumpet. The dead in Christ will rise first, 17 then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. So we will be with the Lord forever.
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The English word "caught up" is translated from the Greek word "Harpazo", which was translated in the latin vulgate as "rapiemur", which was before the English translations were completed. This is where the english word rapture comes from... the original Latin translation.
You may feel that I am a little obsessed with the dead rising, and the body of Christ being raptured out of this world. I know that this is about to happen very soon and we will understand everything. I still am unsure in a way where Deborah is. I'd like to think she is in Heaven already, or will she be going there upon her resurrection?
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